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Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/28/2013 | 7:47:16 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Ariella Greed I think!!  Here's a plot of land we can make money out of at someone else's expense!

We don't care what the consequences may be to the future owners of these properties as we'll have made our money and moved on..............

Ariella
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Ariella, User Rank: Blogger
2/28/2013 | 7:34:53 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Keith That's human nature for you!

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/28/2013 | 1:14:23 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Ariella I just don't understand it - we have had in a nearby town and village developments in areas where it is known to flood and yet they still build!

But they build them with raise ground floors and steps up to the front door so that even if it floods to around 3 feet they'll be ok!! Except they cannot get insurance!!

What world are we living in.

Ariella
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Ariella, User Rank: Blogger
2/27/2013 | 3:14:46 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Keith yes, but people don't necessarily avoid building in known flood areas. This is something some wondered about even before Sandy struck, as this article is nearly 2 years old:

 Indeed, storm drains, pumps, runoff ponds and levees all make many neighborhoods more flood-proof. However, they are really only more flood-resistant, rather than flood-proof.

Levee systems are engineered to contain a certain flood, say a 100-year event for example. However, eventually a flood will come along that exceeds the 100-year event.


The same is true in the design of storm drains of major cities.
So even if your neighborhood is protected by a 30-foot levee, there may along come a flood in your lifetime or your children's lifetime that tops the levee.
Interestingly, just because you may have recently had a once-in-100-years flood, this does not mean that another won't happen soon. These events are based on "averages." It is possible to go 200 years without a 100-year flood or there can be two 100-year floods within a single decade.


Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/27/2013 | 2:52:07 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Ariella it's amazing how developed our 20/20 hindsight is!!

When you look at the topography it is hard to believe that someone at sometime had not thought this may be a problem area!

From the distribution of the fatalities it is clear that there was a serious issue in this area.

Perhaps running different scenarios utilising big data solutions may have forewarned.

Ariella
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Ariella, User Rank: Blogger
2/26/2013 | 12:10:58 PM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
On the subject of maps and Sandy, yesterday WNYC News posted Deadly Topography: The Staten Island Neighborhood Where 11 Died During Sandy It includes a map of low-lying areas marked by Sandy deaths.

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/26/2013 | 4:32:23 AM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Saul yes, I guess big data in this instance would be the virtual brain connecting the left hand with the right hand!

It strikes me that we generally speak of big data in terms of the data held by individual organisations, but here we have a need to co-ordinate sets of data held by different organisations and merge them into a single set of data very quickly that can then be interrogated.

That's a big job!

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
2/25/2013 | 5:49:16 AM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
Keith you've taken that nail and hit it right on the head... and essentially that's one of big data's main roles, to unveil the bigger picture.

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/23/2013 | 5:56:58 AM


Re: Hiding the problem is not a solution
@Ariella don't you just love it when the left hand knows not what the right hand is up to!!

Keith.Grinsted
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2/23/2013 | 5:55:01 AM


Re: Privacy! Not in my back yard!.
@Saul yes adding a layer would seem sensible but depends upon who they got the original data from!!  If they used Royal Mail postal mapping to get the postcodes then they'd have to add ordnance Survey mapping for topography!!

Though if they'd used Google maps then they'd have a whole new set of data!!

What appears the 'easy' solution is not always the way if the govt dept has taken the easy route in the first place and not considered what other data may be needed!

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