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Big Data & the Stock Market

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Edwin Willems
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Edwin Willems, User Rank: Bit Player
2/28/2013 | 1:09:15 PM


Re: Big Data & the Stock Market
@john - aren't brokers using big data already for a long while? Looking at the information they put at the disposal of their customers on their trading platform, there doesn't seem to be much much difference now compared to 10 years ago. Unless they're not sharing it with their clients. Any view on this?

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alvb1227, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
2/27/2013 | 7:59:47 PM


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That's exaclty what I was thinking @Saul. It makes sense to me for big data to play an important role in how analysts make decisions, however, I wonder at the same time how much big data could be used to "manipulate" the market. Obviously traders, etc. will do whatever possible to gain an edge on their competition.

Daniel Gutierrez
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Daniel Gutierrez, User Rank: Blogger
2/26/2013 | 3:50:13 PM


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@Saul, these trading algorithms were well kept secrets from what I could see, and everyone gave the impression they were successful. Of course intellectual pride would dictate that if the algorithms failed, they'd never talked about it. It isn't something anyone wanted to share and open source certainly wasn't entertained. I don't think anyone wanted their algorithms to fall into the hands of anyone on Wall Street.

MDMConsult
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MDMConsult, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
2/26/2013 | 1:33:12 PM


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@Saul SEC still has its uncertainity challenges when it comes to its technology ambition and budgets passing through Congress as funding is decided by the law. However there is great potential being done here where the new Market Information Data Analytics, or MIDAS initiative was recently chosen. This is a real time software that is in place to help the SEC "monitor and understand mini-flash crashes, or pick up on possibly troublesome or illegal behavior" benefiting the long term investors protection. Even more greater opportunities for data scientists. The full speech on SEC's new initiatives can be found here:

http://www.sec.gov/news/speech/2013/spch021913ebw.htm

 

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
2/26/2013 | 12:07:30 PM


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Is there a reason to stop there @MDMconsult? Could the laws be governed by data driven rules? Coudl these laws use big data to respond in real time and see unnecessary risk and unfair movement?

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
2/26/2013 | 12:05:32 PM


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@Daniel... that sounds like it could be a bit of a revelation!Were they generally successful or was it a bit hit and miss?

MDMConsult
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MDMConsult, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
2/25/2013 | 7:56:23 PM


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Yes, the SEC is based on strict rules and regulations one that should change to a more data driven culture. SEC should be able to recruit these data scientists and retain employees who understand how to use the analytics tools and big data effectively.

Daniel Gutierrez
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Daniel Gutierrez, User Rank: Blogger
2/25/2013 | 7:07:38 PM


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@Saul, when I was in grad school for a data science program, it was common knowledge that most of the professors and grad students had their own trading algorithims used for individual portfolio accounts; its like the first thing you do when you get a graduate level perspective in machine learning - build technology to make $ in the market. From what I saw, especially from the professors, these algorithms could be sold to any number of Wall Street firms, but they generally prefer to keep the technology private.

 

 

 

AlphaEdge
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AlphaEdge, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
2/25/2013 | 2:36:28 PM


Re: Big Data & the Stock Market
Good point. It might be difficult for SEC to understand the Big Data analytics results. :) However, there are many places Big Data can make a big difference in financial industry anyway.

AlphaEdge
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AlphaEdge, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
2/25/2013 | 2:34:32 PM


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@Saul, It might be difficult to get around regulation by using big data. For example, a machine learning algorithm might have less explanatory capability comparing to a simple regression or simple statistics analysis.  On the other hand, it is true that with more inpformation available, it might be difficult to break the rules.

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