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Try Big Data, Maybe You'll Like It

James M. Connolly
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Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/25/2013 | 6:33:00 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
In that respect I guess the real-time applications would have known end results and targets... where as the cached or copied data sets will allow for more experimentation and playing. 

Could this end up with not enough creative thinking applied to the real-time side inquisition?

James M. Connolly
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James M. Connolly, User Rank: Blogger
1/24/2013 | 10:47:42 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
Right, Saul, going back to data warehousing times, most of those projects utilized copies of data rather than the live version. In that case they did it because the DW apps were less time sensitive than the production apps, and you didn't want the DW team messing with things like customer records in SAP. Now that we have moved on to big-data apps you certainly don't want the live records being used in pilot or dev projects. However, even when you move into full production mode, most big-data apps won't need absolutely real-time data. The exceptions that do need it probably are things like credit card monitoring apps. Even then, it makes sense to set things up so that data is fed into a duplicate data store rather than touching the actual transactional data.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/24/2013 | 6:16:37 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
In that case @James it sounds like a really exciting possibility - disposable data projects. Use it till it works, if not, just burn it and learn from the lessons. Could make the enterprise a much more innovative space if people felt they had this freedom.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/23/2013 | 12:09:24 PM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
@AlphaEdge any vendor out there should be bending over backwards to give you a heads up on your progression... but often the battles are internal. That headache of scalability might be worth having if it means you get buy in from the guys financing IT...

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AlphaEdge, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/22/2013 | 3:02:19 PM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
I think due to the fact that the overhead for testing it out is very high including the understanding of the concepts, the technologies used, and the infrastructure to set up. In addition, even if a proof of concept venue is taken, the scalability of the model can be very headache. I am opt to ask if there are some vendors out there that can help with businesses plotting these out at at minimum cost? I am sure there are a lot out there hopfully?

James M. Connolly
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James M. Connolly, User Rank: Blogger
1/22/2013 | 10:23:26 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
Saul. Good point about using this approach to do a proof-of-concept for a project that you want to run in the next budget cycle. I wouldn't worry about data silos because the data files that you use in that type of experiment probably would have to be a copy -- and thus disposable -- for use in the short term.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/22/2013 | 5:17:22 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
Arguing against my own point - there's a possibility that internal departments which operate within a wider data setup could find this attractive. If the data budget has been spent, but they want a proof of concept for the next budget period, and try before you buy could give them the signs they are after --- it'll cause havoc in terms of data siloing, but sometimes you have to think like a start up to get what you need.

 

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mharden, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/21/2013 | 7:40:08 PM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
James - I definitely see it as a great waynfor newbies to get acclamated to big data. I know of a couple of companies usint just to get their feet wet.

James M. Connolly
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James M. Connolly, User Rank: Blogger
1/21/2013 | 3:15:54 PM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
Saul. I don't see companies that are well down the road toward big-data apps doing this try-and-buy thing, although they might check out the offering just out of curiosity. I think this one is for the relative newbies.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/21/2013 | 7:38:21 AM


Re: Free is good, free and simple even better
@James, sounds like all these offers and promises draw up quite a complex pricing matrix... Can defintely see how this kind of offer (10 minutes to functionality) would appeal to those just starting on their big data journey... but for companies who arleady leveraging benefits... I'm not so sure.

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