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sarapeters
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sarapeters, User Rank: Bit Player
1/30/2013 | 11:20:16 AM


blasted business
Ben, of all the great advice you just gave this is the piece that will stick with me most: "The main thing to remember at the outset of a big data analytics project is that it is only as successful as the business says it is." So true, but it's one of those things that so many makes IT professionals either grumble because they disagree or blush because they know that it's true and know that they probably don't follow that good advice as much as they should.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/30/2013 | 11:57:06 AM


Re: blasted business
Very true @sarapeters! This is in opposition to a lot of c-level firms saying "we need big data, go and make this happen" with no definitions, no set goals. @Ben - is most of the struggle to get deployment up to speed involved in cultural clashes within the organization? (P.S looking forward to tomorrow's webinar!)

baverch
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baverch, User Rank: Blogger
1/30/2013 | 1:10:33 PM


Re: blasted business
Hi Saul and Sara,

Thanks for these comments! My feeling is, it is really about negotiating a balancing act, and organizational clashes are to be avoided if at all possible. The IT group needs to serve multiple groups within the company -- Finance, Marketing, Sales, you name it. So the IT management is already dealing with how to prioritize projects for different groups given finite resources. Support from the business and measureable objectives will help as the PM attempts to garner additional resources to support a project that needs to be fast tracked. 

The goal should be to set up win-wins, or at least acceptable compromises, amongst the stakeholders who include the business groups that are driving the project, the IT management who needs to allocate the resources amongst competing projects, and of course the developers themselves who have to go and execute the design really quickly.

legalcio
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legalcio, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/30/2013 | 5:17:07 PM


Re: blasted business
The initial challenge to a Big Data project is that the beneficiaries don't know what they don't know.  We can ask them what they want to accomplish but with only a vague idea, or no idea at all of what Big Data is they can't respond.  As CIOs our challenge is to wear the different hats of various departments and provide examples of value and ROI by using Big Data.  And that means we need to understand more about how our respective businesses function.

netcrawl
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netcrawl, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/30/2013 | 5:29:42 PM


Re: blasted business
Interesting topic! Big Data is gaining momemtum and buzz, I agree companies still don't know what exactly they can get with Big Data, they lack skills and experience. Even with tools and technologies companies still don't know how or when t use Big data. 

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
1/30/2013 | 9:16:07 PM


Re: blasted business
@legalcio '...they don't know what they don't know...'

Sorry, but I have to quote from my favourite quote from one of your fellow Americans - Donald Rumsfeld (Feb 2002):

There are known knowns;there are things we know that we know. 

There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.

But there are also unknown unknowns; there are things we do not know, we don't know.

 

I'm sure you get fed up with it, but I think it relevant to so many situations!!

 

legalcio
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legalcio, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/31/2013 | 1:36:12 PM


Re: blasted business
Ho ho, Rummy is always relevant!

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
1/31/2013 | 2:06:31 PM


Re: blasted business
I'm just amazed that no-one said it before!!

SharCo
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SharCo, User Rank: Bit Player
2/3/2013 | 12:42:15 PM


Re: blasted business
I love this quote. I've heard it so many times and it applies to so many different situations, so I don't mind. In this case, it is just as relevant as those others. 

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/31/2013 | 5:11:25 AM


Re: blasted business
@legalcio and the next step is for this ill definition to result in the C level losing patience with the big data operation. What Ben's pragmatic advice here offers are ways to ensure that those first signs of ROI are seen as quickly as possible. Not just to the data team, but in a way that the proof can be shown up the chain - resulting in more patience, more investment, and bigger results (we all hope)!

netcrawl
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netcrawl, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/30/2013 | 6:12:23 PM


Re: blasted business
There'e always some challenges in day first of implemention, Big data is going to change the rule of "data game", there's going to have some culture change, some clash within the company. 

Keith.Grinsted
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Keith.Grinsted, User Rank: Petabyte Pathfinder
1/30/2013 | 9:10:25 PM


Re: blasted business
@Saul '...go and get it...' sounds a bit like the early days of web sites when everyone was told they needed a web site!

So they went out and got one, and.........nothing!!

Because no-one knew what to do with them when they got them!!

Hope that is not the case here - though doubtless there will be a few!

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/31/2013 | 5:13:27 AM


Re: blasted business
@Keith - yep, huge parallels here with the digital 'goldrush' in many eras. Defined goals is the just the first step though... crucial as it is, to seeing those results.

netcrawl
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netcrawl, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/30/2013 | 6:10:24 PM


Re: blasted business
it's true! but IT professionals still have no idea on how to properly implement Big data stuff, they still addressing the issue in a piecemeal basis, they're not getting a good work.

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
1/31/2013 | 5:16:17 AM


Supernova Heights
Interesting HR point from @Ben here, "You will find that developers can go supernova for about two months at the most before it becomes too much, and you'll need to dial things back." 

I wonder if this is often the first consideration to go out the window when pressure comes from on high to get the data doing what it is supposed to. There must be a lot of great staff who burnt out and became disillusioned on the back of more than two months expending the brilliant white light of that supernova's energy.

Anna Young
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Anna Young, User Rank: Exabyte Executive
1/31/2013 | 8:12:07 AM


Big Data Partnering
When planning Big Data project, I suppose it's easier and more straightforward identifying and bringing in employees from the company but at what point in the project should an enterprise involve external stakeholders such as suppliers and joint venture partners? What are the likely concerns from the IP perspective and what's the best strategy for addressing those potential hiccups on the way?

Saul Sherry
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Saul Sherry, User Rank: Blogger
2/1/2013 | 5:18:13 AM


Re: Big Data Partnering
@Anna I'd look at that as a threat matrix... but adapt it into a speed matrix. What is the fastest route to take? As Ben discussed in yesterday's webinar, even bringin vendors in requires 'ramp up' time - so you need to know what you would benefit from (as usual) - but also envision how it will impact your overall speed. Will it deccelerate you in the short term but result in an overall higher top speed?

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